Because Jezebel is like US Weekly with a thin neoliberal feminist veneer, so they can be like "But, Take Back the Night is not yours, JT" and then forgive him the next day because he and other celebrities keep the lights on at Jezebel HQ.

Why do people need "good" people in their shows? Real people are complex and morally ambiguous at best. The sort of aversion some people have to realistic portrayals of humans and their relationships with other people is something I don't get.

Do you really get glamour out of Mad Men? The show is pretty brutal and doesn't give anybody a pass on their bullshit. Do people need some morally unambiguous good guys and bad guys in their TV?

I mean, all shows can't be as enthralling as Scandal with the camera noises, bad acting, and soap opera-level writing and plot twists.

White people are quite familiar with being white, but they are still uncomfortable with talking about whiteness or white privilege. I think familiarity may make people even more uncomfortable with the criticisms than unfamiliarity.

I had a perfectly good conversation with another person. Again, nothing I said was untrue. And, again, I have no reason to believe that people aren't made incredibly uncomfortable by talking about class.

No, in that case, you are the joke.

they probably aren't in situations/talking to people where they are going to see or hear about people like Angela Davis and Alice Walker.

The problem is that we learn about bell hooks in college and then assume that people who are "less educated" than ourselves cannot understand her, aren't interested in her work, and can only dig on Oprah. So then, in a fit of schizophrenia, we erase that which is classist about Oprah? I'm really not following the…

if we don't have Oprah who do we have?

This person who dares to speak of class in a class-blind society. Nothing I said was untrue, especially the fact that people can talk about race, gender, sexuality all day long but the second that a person brings up class, they are made a pariah because we simply cannot even acknowledge that classism exists and that…

None of the things you posted negate the fact that her wealth also contributes to class oppression. Especially in the developing world. I would argue that the rich attempt to buy their salvation and this is highly problematic, but I doubt I could even get anybody to acknowledge that classism exists at this point, much…

No, I hate the message I perceive the gif being used to convey: "I'm going to step away from this discussion because class makes me uncomfortable."

Yep, that gif depicts how Americans respond to discussions of class. We can talk race, gender, sexuality all day long, but anybody dares mention inequality in regards to class and we seize up.

Yeah, great. That's basically a gif that depicts the vast majority of people in the West when class and capital come up in a conversation. And we wonder why things are only getting worse, not better. But, whatever, OPRAH!

Yeah, great. That's basically a gif that depicts the vast majority of people in the West when class and capital come up in a conversation. And we wonder why things are only getting worse, not better. But, whatever, OPRAH!

There are plenty of quality role models if we shift our criteria away from people who have more money than 99.999% of all human beings. bell hooks is a million times the role model that Oprah is but she doesn't promote toxic celebrity culture, shill for products made in sweatshops, and hasn't collected obscene amounts…

Only in a country where consumerism is God do we point to a person of color and applaud them simply for collecting a bunch of capital.

Only in a country where consumerism is God do we point to a person of color and applaud them simply for collecting a bunch of capital.

There has to be something more than just representation, there has to be representation of people that young women of color should strive to be and in many ways I don't think Oprah is such a person.