Unless you are buying a Tesla or something made by Honda or Toyota, changes are a lot of the components are made in China.

Not sure how they calculated the 9%, but in my experience it sounds low. I’d be curious to know if it included the instances where you pull up to the charger and it’s completely dead.

If it’s just a rebadged ID.4, then I completely agree that the tech is a bit more mature.

I’m guessing the mid and high spec Wagoneer EVs to be $100k+. At that price, I’d do Rivian before Jeep.

This is a point many often miss. China has invested billions of dollars into their auto industry because they want to own the market. They have succeeded on many fronts. Some will try to pick apart the reasons for their lead (slave labor, environmental laws, etc…) but the reality is that they won because they made it…

Not too surprisingly, Tesla offers specials at the end of the quarter. It’s typically on inventory vehicles. 

Nobody actually cares about that. They want to keep their jobs and get things for cheap. Aka, have their cake and eat it too. 

The auto lobby is very well funded.

I’d argue that the US has already lost the race since China has been doing it for longer, and are now the dominant player.

I’m guessing a cow is more aerodynamic than this thing. 

While I do think that US manufacturers have fallen behind the EV shift, I also think they need some protection against cheap Chinese EVs. That being said, I also think the tariffs should tier down each year over the course of 10 years. This gives the US manufacturers the protection they need while also putting limits…

This. Being dumb gets attention and interaction, which equals money.

I was thinking the same. After reading about all the bad things that come along with microplastics, I’m starting to think that animal products are a better choice.

Hate to say it, but there is not a difference anymore. It’s the same values, but without the veneer. 

I think the loss of “luxury perception” plays a big part. Tesla’s were once pretty rare, but now a day does not go by that I don’t see multiple 3's and Y’s rolling around. To me, they are now the gold Camry of the late 90's. They are still good cars, just very common.

I second this. Porsche isn’t known for reliability, especially gen 1 vehicles. 

I don’t think these will ever be volume sellers in the US, but if they can get the tax incentive and get it close to $20k, it wouldn’t be a bad deal.

You can find them in the “inventory vehicles.” The model Y’s have some steep discounts, other models not so much.

Was in Connecticut a few weeks ago. Can confirm every old person was driving a Honda of some sort.

I know it’s Kuwait, but…