Also it isnt like it is JUST marvel movies that are down. The entire box office is down post covid, with the exception of a few bright spots that are lifting it all up (Barbie, Mario, Oppenheimer, GOTG3).

This. It isn’t super-hero fatigue. It is bad writing fatigue.  Full stop.

It’s funny that everyone seems determined for the MCU to collapse while there are rarely comments on how terrible the majority of the DCEU has been. I get that’s the nature of Marvel being this huge cultural phenomenon right now. I wonder were there similar complaints about superhero fatigue back when you had multiple…

On top of all that, there’s something really absurd to the hand-wringing, “But WHY did these post-pandemic releases not make as much box-office as the pre-pandemic movies?” I’ve seen so many think pieces that seem to pretend this major factor of why folks might still not be interested in a packed movie theater doesn’t…

It actually sounds like someone said, “Anyone got any ideas?” And then people threw around a bunch of ideas. And then someone said, “These two ideas are absolutely bonkers, there’s no way we’re doing those.” And then someone said, “Man, we were at this retreat and there were these two really weird ideas a couple folks…

There’s been a LOT of new threads, and it’s true, it’s hard to see which ones are going to “matter”. The closest one I can spot is the establishment of a bunch of Young Avengers characters who I presume are going to pick up a torch in the next “Avengers” movies, but even that’s not a given.

The problem right now is there’s no sign of where its going. The Kang movies are Avengers films. But right now we have no Avengers.

You’re right. I stand corrected.

I guess for me knowing he was in the background (in the movies) was enough, for me, to see him as a somewhat threat. 

This is it exactly. They have lost all momentum. The driving forward of their new large arc story just feels stalled.

The only problems I’ve seen post Endgame can be summed up thusly:

I can believe the idea was floated at a company retreat. I would be surprised if the idea wasn't floated. But an idea being thrown around in a brainstorming session is not a guarantee it'll be made. 

This is my take as well. Shang Chi’s post-credits sequence seemed to be setting up a new Avengers team. Eternals’ ending seemed to be setting up a new corner of cosmic Marvel. WandaVision seemed to be setting up some stuff with Vision. The last Spider-Man movie, coupled with the Hawkeye TV show, seemed to be setting…

This would be the biggest dumbest thing they could do which is why I don’t believe a word of it. Feige is not this dumb. Only whiny fanboys are this dumb. You know the kind that have forgotten that the MCU has always been filled with duds both critically and financially and deliberately overlook the overall average of…

No it didn’t. Thanos was shown in post credits in Avengers 1 and 2, and didn’t really get mentioned outside of Guardians of the Galaxy. Nothing else showed him or mentioned him.

Many disastrous movies have reshoots because every single film with a budget greater than $1000 goes back for additional shooting during the editing process.

I agree, and while Kang did appear in the latest Antman, I don’t think he was a formidable opponent. They (the movie) told me he was, but I saw little evidence of it.

It becomes a chore to have to go back to a movie you really weren’t interested in or having to add TV shows to your viewing routine.

Yeah, Kang just isn’t cutting it as a mega-threat right now. Early Thanos was behind the scenes and mostly showed how everyone is subservient to him. Then the first time you really see Thanos he beats up Hulk and kills Loki.

You quite literally got a break, a much longer one than they planned considering the unexpected pandemic pushed the MCU back about 1 year.

Kang’s threat was only recently explained in Loki season 2. For the casual movie goers, they’ll be left in the dark without a quick recap of why Kang is the new big, bad villain of all things. Which, will only cheapen the experience for the casual move goer.