I don’t care about the politics or the polar bears or the regulations. I care that VW deliberately and with premeditation defrauded the government and the consumers. While I appreciate epic sized balls, I have to stop and wonder what else have they methodically lied about in recent years? Do TDi fuel pumps still…

“Fuck these regulations”

“Oh shit, this part breaks and sometimes bad things happen. Let’s fix it and not tell anyone about it” isn’t quite the same as “We can’t meet these standards that everybody has to meet, so fuck the standards. Let’s program the car to follow the law only during the test and ignore it the rest of the time and hope we…

The law always punishes ‘willful’ violations more than negligence. It’s not ‘the world we live in’ as if this is something new; has traces back to the origin of law.

This is an interesting point which I’ve been thinking about all weekend. If you’re an employee of Volkswagen corporate, what do you do now? Start looking for a new job?

NOx doesn’t kill people? GM would be facing this same thing if they intentionally tried to make the ignition switches fail.

Fuck these regulations and fuck the bureaucrats who dream them up.

A billion dollar fine isn’t a serious consequence?

There are so many different sides to this firestorm there’s almost no way they can contain it. It’s going to be very bad for the company. The owners are outraged, the regulators are sharpening their teeth, the dealers are getting screwed over. This is what happens when you throw everything at a single-minded goal of…

FYI: The urea injection chamber in my 2.1L MB sprinter van is about 12” diameter and 24” long. In addition, the 4 gallon tank is also sizeable. Imagine trying to fit those two items into a currently tightly packed VW today.

Standard testing procedures wouldn’t find it. That is why is was undetected. Unless you tested it driving on actual roads you would know. Testing on public roads has a ton of variables which is why cars aren’t tested on public roads, always in a controlled environment.

Can someone explain how VW actually pulled off this cheat for so long?

Historically it’s been treble damages for ‘willful’ violations/fraud, so 37k actually has VW coming out ahead. That’s where this’ll get really interesting since all the other recent issues by other companies have been poorly implemented reactions to identified problems whereas this was a willful and deliberate…

Well, they’re going to have to meet emissions regulations eventually. Unless the EPA decides it’s okay for these 500k cars to not meet the regulations which is about as likely as a 3rd term for Nixon.

Lying about emissions that have ill effects on people’s health in order to sell your product is actually killing people. So don’t worry, our priorities are in order.

But they would run like shit... who could want a car that runs like shit? You?

Apples to oranges. GM and Toyota covered up an issue after the fact. VW intentionally implemented this from the beginning.

There is a chvy cruze TDI but it is way more expensive than the jetta for comperable equipment. This lends weight to the idea that VW skirted some rules to cut down on needed equipment. I think they’re going to pull the new Ram/Jeep ecodiesels as well as the BMW diesels. Those vehicles will all be scrutinized both to…

Consolation for VW, sticking it to people who say they can’t make electrical systems work right.