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Somewhere in the 60-80% range will vote for Hillary. If Hillary can capture some meaningful percentage of the remaining 20-40% without some huge concession (as appears likely), that helps her at the margins. She would also like to avoid a contentious or disrupted convention if possible, because that plays into her

You mean that long 4 days between the last primary and her full-throated endorsement? Yeah, that was a crazy, crazy time, during which she gave no speeches or interviews and simply disappeared for a few days to get some rest and get her head straight before campaigning tirelessly to get Obama elected. Twice.

I think she gave him the “win” narrative in exchange for a full-voiced endorsement. He can spin this as “our ideas won even if we didn’t,” with his supporters, and she’s giving up virtually nothing (as you pointed out).

Yep. She actually played that whole thing perfectly. He got his little victory lap around DC, and before the Oval Office door had fully closed behind him Obama, Warren, and Biden all gave Clinton an enthusiastic endorsement and everyone just moved into general election mode. The only time anyone ever puts Sanders on

I liked Nader, but his “the parties are totally the same and everyone’s out to get you” rhetoric was manipulative bullshit. Gore was possibly the most environmentally progressive candidate in HISTORY, whereas Bush turned out to be a war criminal. So Nader can suck it.

I think we’re actually on the same page on this one. A vote for a third-party candidate in a non-swing state might help that party hit a national threshold that would qualify it for matching funds, etc. I’m not much of a fan of Jill Stein (and I think her statement that Clinton should be prosecuted over her email

I was being a little sarcastic in my response, just because I keep hearing this shit about how people are going to vote “in protest” and it makes my teeth hurt. Nobody knows your vote was a protest vote. Nobody cares. It counts EXACTLY the same as a 100% genuine and sincere expression of support, as lots and lots of

He’ll say it Tuesday when he and Clinton campaign together in NH or she will burn a hole through his skull with her eyes.

Because the votes count the same whether they’re enthusiastic, somewhat reluctant, very reluctant, made in protest, sarcastic, erroneous, well-informed, poorly-informed, “lesser-of-two-evils” or just plain “close your eyes and hit a button.”

They’re appearing together in New Hampshire (a state Clinton wants in the general where Sanders shellacked her in the primaries) on Tuesday. Our long national nightmare is about to come to an end.

Having been in somewhat analogous situations with people who 100% believed that the media/government/judges/etc. are idiots who don’t know what the hell they’re talking about, I read Trump’s bafflement at the media criticism as completely genuine. If you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about, and someone lays

“Mr. Trump, we have a tremendous opportunity here. Clinton’s on her heels a bit from this email thing - let’s really hit the fact that the FBI director, who is credible and known for unimpeachable integrity, said that she was ‘careless,’ ok? It goes with our ‘judgment’ theme.”

I don’t think he has enough veterans of recent campaigns on his staff to actually know what he’s fucking up, so I sort of doubt even that it’s all that bad behind the scenes. The last campaign Manafort was involved with even tangentially was John McCain, and the only thing anyone remembers about McCain’s campaign is

Why would I give a shit who you vote for? Given the alternative in this election, I think that’s akin to being like “I don’t like the paint color someone chose for the living room in this house I just bought, so I’m going to soak it in gasoline and set it on fire,” but it’s your vote to use as you want.

Killer burn, bro.

It’s almost like they have some other reason for not voting for her.

Fair clarification - I was assuming the period of American greatness was “before” 1877, which would include all the slavery time.

I noticed that too. My conclusion is that his grandkids aren’t him, so he can’t see how they’d hold anyone’s attention for more than 60 seconds.

I sort of feel like Joni Ernst hates Mike Pence.

I heard a throwaway line in a speech the other day where he said something about how when America was great before, “the President could pick up the phone - no, wait, they wouldn’t even have had a phone” and I was like, wait, he wants to take us back to before 1877? Because I think I know some slaves who would like to