He said it had to be automatic.

Even on the stock 4x4 suspension?

Come on guys, this is one of those times where M.I.A.T.A really does apply. specifically, fully loaded RF 2019 with the automatic.

The 4c? Really, that thing is low and has the widest door sills known to mankind, that thing would be a serious chore for a 79 year old to get in and out of.

Also, Kristens suggestion is…

I feel like this sentence makes no sense, but maybe my coffee just hasn’t kicked in yet

OMG, that would be great, so many variations. I think Porsche is the weirdest though! 

I would be staggered if they didn’t use some form of turbo engine, but knowing Honda it’ll probably be the 1.5 liter... 

The Miata’s fuel economy is impressive as hell, but also, not that impressive considering what it weighs and it’s power level. It’s actually only impressive in comparison to the miatas (and S2000s) of yore, which got abysmal fuel economy for what they were.

It’s funny how butthurt you are when I was poking fun at the OP who claimed it was “unbelievable” that Mazda could eek out a whooping 90 hp per liter.

It’s not unbelievable, 181hp ain’t shit out of 2.0. The Miata is still under-powered (and great)

It was sarcasm, I am not actually surprised by any of this, the OP said he couldn’t believe that Mazda could make 181hp from 2.0, Honda set the bar for this years ago, way higher, and a half dozen other companies have made higher HP per liter 4 cyls since, I don’t know why it’s so hard to believe that Mazda could…

I mean, if you paid that much for a bike and it didn’t have some form of self propulsion, wouldn’t you be pissed?

But that’s a different argument than the one you made initially. I think you are letting your ‘sads’ about a 2 seater not being practical for you color your opinion of the value of a Miata. It’s a perfectly practical car for people without kids.

(btw you are preaching to the crowd, my Mk7 R is a great dual purpose car…

sarcasm is so lost on Jalopnik readers...

Obviously my response was meant to convey a lack of disbelief that Mazda could eek a measly 181hp out of a 2 liter over 2 decades after Honda did it first/better.

sarcasm is so lost on Jalopnik readers...

Obviously my response was meant to convey a lack of disbelief that Mazda could eek a measly 181hp out of a 2 liter over 2 decades after Honda did it first/better.

But the MSRP for a GTI starts at 26k so they are the same. Similar fun for similar money, it seems like we must conclude that they are similar value. 

I don’t think you can calculate a dollar per horsepower ratio for a bicycle since it makes 0 hp on it’s own. 

Honda NA 2.0 in 1999: 240hp
Mazda NA 2.0 in 2018: 181hp

I don’t BELIEVE IT either, how the hell is Mazda, almost 20 years later, still short so many horses...

I would never shed a tear over a run of the mill Lambo.

Yeah, sometime the ideas about certain cars that non-car people come up with makes me raise an eyebrow.

*facepalm*

what does your wife have against Miatas! lol

Current Garage is Mk7 Golf R/ NA Miata (track car)
Previously: C7 Corvette (only car)
Previously, previously: GR WRX Hatch/ AP1 S2000