An excuse would be if I said that he couldn’t help himself or wasn’t responsible for his behavior. An explanation is something that may explain the behavior, particularly if the behavior is out character. It is something that may allow a person to forgive someone for doing a shitty thing, knowing that sometimes even…

I hope not.

Even if you would very likely spend more trying to prove you didn’t do it? Or if you knew it would be more damaging to your reputation to drag it out? Or if the studio and insurance company, who would probably be the ones actually paying insisted?

Not once have I said that he didn’t do it or that he’s not guilty (except in the legal sense because he wasn’t even charged). I was simply saying that perhaps he allowed the disgusting atmosphere of the film along with the blurred line between fact and fiction to influence him to act out of character. He’s still…

Oh absolutely! If he did any of that then it absolutely is sexual harassment. I hope he did that as well. I don’t know if he did. He could be a total asshole perv. But we don’t know.

People settle cases all the time. The parties went into mediation and they came to an agreement. It is often more expensive and more harmful to your reputation to go to trial. Both parties have to agree to the settlement. Another possibility is that the studio, who insured the movie and would be part of suit and could…

Because it shows that this is not usual behavior, that he hadn’t always acted that way. It says absolutely nothing about whether or not it happened but it does make me hesitant to write him off as a monster.

I agree with you. They should have known better. They should have been able to separate reality from film even when the film was about that line.

It is that film, yes. And the way you described it is exactly as you stated: I am simply saying that we should not assume he is a monster when we do not have any indication that this was an issue before or since then. It is particularly the fact that the one woman worked with him for a decade without and had no issues…

Do you know if he apologized to the women as part of the mediation and settlement? I certainly don’t because I wasn’t there.

Of course it doesn’t. But it does show that perhaps something had changed and it is my hypothesis that it was at least partially the type of film this took place on.

Thanks!

I agree completely that we can’t know what goes on in these situations. I read similar accounts from other women who worked with Casey. That doesn’t mean that nothing happened. As I have said, the fact that one of the women worked with him for years without incident until this movie points to something being different…

I didn’t say that picture showed him tearing up. During the broadcast when they showed a close up of Denzel he appeared to have tears in his eyes. Did you watch the show?

Nope. Just not ready to say he is a horrible person person of this film was the only environment where this shit happened. Perhaps he copped to his bad behavior during arbitration. We don’t know what happened on set (other than a disgusting film that intentionally blurred the line between fact and fiction) or after.…

I don’t think anyone didn’t see Denzel tear up...the only difference is how we interpreted it.

That is entirely possible.

I liked him as the goofy one in Good Will Hunting and in Gone Baby Gone, a film I really liked. So I don’t really have any dog in this fight. He’s decent in the two or three things I saw him in and that’s about all the impression I really have of him.

I am not saying it didn’t happen. I would caution using settlements in civil lawsuits as indications of guilt. It looks like they were suing him for a fairly small amount for Hollywood. It was like $4 million (I didn’t know this, I had to look it up) and so it may just have made sense for him to settle.

Nope. Not what I’m saying at all. A person can do shitty things, particularly if there are some unique situations, and not be a shitty person. It seems like this behavior was likely influenced by the environment of the film. It does not excuse the behavior. But if the behavior is truly abhorrent and the person tries…