“It could’ve easily been avoided if the parents had ever investigated any of the irregular behaviour and educated their kid on it, while at the same time rejecting it”.

Do not think that it’s anything other than painfully obvious that you refuse to use his pronouns. I wonder why that might be?

Trans kids exist, my barely-literate dude.

Except I did name them? Are you high? In addition to apparently being annoyed that we reminded you that your farts stink? 

Phobias in the modern context of the word does not exclusively imply fear. And we all grew up in a transphobic society, transphobia is the baseline, and even trans folks have to deal with internalized transphobia. If you don’t want to be labeled as a trans phone, you can start by not calling trans people “deranged”.

Holy cow, kiddo. Take a chill pill. This is a comment on a blog post, not a dang text chat. You can wait. Breathe. 

Except that pretty much all the experts, sports orgs, etc agree that after a reasonable amount of time on hormones, the advantages disappear. Insisting, in the face of that, that trans women and girls maintain an advantage can only have its roots in transphobia.

Additional spots cost money. Collecting data costs money. A national governing body costs money. Synthesizing and processing data costs money. Who’s gonna pay for it, you?

But, again, you’re placing the burden for trans acceptance on trans people and their ability to either do the science themselves, or gain enough charity to have it done by someone else. Unless you have a realistic plan for people to get to the benchmarks you’ve created, you’ve basically just taken the long way round…

That’s not true, tho. People haven’t been doing genetic tests of all athletes. The actual deciding factor has been gender presentation-people who look like women compete with the women, with very very few exceptions.

That’s a kind of ridiculously high bar. How would such a “universal” set of rules be implemented, internationally and at all levels of play? Who is going to fund all that research? Because what you’re saying is that you feel comfortable discriminating against trans women until your particular high bar is cleared,…

Except that there are broadly accepted rules in place in many of the larger organizations, like the NCAA and the IOC. Self-identification is used in some places, but not as many as you’d think. 

There isn’t, tho, despite what you might want there to be. There’s the side that the medical and psychiatric professionals, trans people, and allies are on. And then there’s the side you’re on.

Oh gosh yeah I’m totally the flip side of the same coin as someone who literally thinks trans people ought to die. Sounds like some pretty enlightened centrist bullshit. Amazing how “reality” is your weird, genitals-essentialist point of view, which is shared by none of the following:

Trans women are women. Cis women are women. Trans women aren’t cis women. But intentionally excluding trans women from the definition of “women” is a shitty thing to do, and insisting on doing so is kind of definitionally transphobia. If you don’t like being called a transphobe, maybe don’t say transphobic things?

Do you get yours from websites with names like “PatriotNewZ.freedom”? Or are you more of the sort of person who gets theirs from orgs with insidiously vague names like “Women For Recognition Of Women’s Places”?

So infertile women aren’t “full women” in your estimation? My friend (who is currently pregnant) only has one ovary, is she less of a woman? What about my other friend, who had to have a hysto because she had cancer, is she less of a woman? Is your definition of womanhood solely dependent on a woman’s ability to have…

Okay so: Trans people are also biological. Trans women who have medically transitioned are female. So the phrase “biological female” is not particularly accurate, in the way that I assume you mean it.

I think this argument would carry more water if there was any evidence of it actually happening, or studies showing it to be the case. And high school sports are certainly not on the same level as Olympic athletes. Plus, you yourself pointed out that advantages are cumulative-and having low muscle mass is certainly a…

I’m not claiming it’s simple or easy, just that there is a path forward that produces at least a reasonable facsimile of fairness. If someone comes out in their junior year, they would probably have to make a decision between medical transition and competitive sports. It’s not an easy decision, but sometimes you have…