You know what would make this thread awesome? Pictures.

I thought bringing back the grey comments was going to allow picture posting again? What gives? Now we have annoying gray comments (95% of which deserve approval), and STILL no pictures. Worst of both worlds.

Is there anything better than a fast sedan?

Lack of pictures makes this increasingly difficult!

A lot of people seem to think it's hideous, but I have a soft spot for the Porsche Panamera Turbo S

You already provided the best possible answer.

Actually, she was/is a complete douchebag. I'll give you her number...you two would get along nicely!

You probably did. Every now and then one of those Gawker loonies wanders in here, looking for white guilt, racism, and probably a jar of hard candy.

'Murican hard-working guy posts to recreational website during American working hours.

I cringed every time they said "we are the 99%"

I live down in the financial district of NYC, not far from where the Occupy protests happened. One day, I decided to entertain myself by paying them a visit, just to see them up close. I expected the worst, and I wasn't disappointed.

Why would the Royal Australian Air Force be capturing stuff in New Mexico?

That's fine and dandy, but it still doesn't explain to me why two cars passed Ward without their back end stepping out. I don't know why so many people are claiming he purposely hit Ward, I find that hard to believe. But did he act properly? I'm just not sure. Just how I don't think we can claim he had malicious…

The problem with this line of thinking is that there doesn't seem like a good reason why Tony would get on the gas when he did. It's unusual. To get around the track at that speed, it's unnecessary.

Yep it's all speculation and opinion. Unfortunately too many people will jump to the guilty verdict and demand a hanging without any reasonable thinking. I'm not proclaiming his innocence in the matter, merely that we as fourth and fifth party observers need to be a little more reasonable with our judgements and…

You shouldn't forget that the incident happened at CAUTION speed.

Not necessarily though. If Tony was trying to avoid him with no malicious intent (clipping, hitting, spraying with dirt) then it was just an accident caused by Ward's presence on the track and aggressive approach of Tony's car that would be the cause of the accident. At that point it would be like you playing frogger…

Bernie Ecclestone is very impressed.

Jesus fuck, learn to type like a moderately intelligent chimp and turn your fucking Caps Lock off.

I do like Jags of that vintage. But something about E38s with the sport package just do it for me:

FACT: No sedan will ever look better than an E38 with M-Parallel wheels. Every once in a while I start to miss my 740i sport. Then I pull out some old repair bills and the nostalgia slips away...