I do support deportation for people who commit crimes in the US and aren’t US citizens. ::shrugging::

How about we switch this conversation around for a second? Let’s see what you would do besides through idiotic accusations of racism where there aren’t any.

Yes, of course I have. When anyone commits a crime, they should be punished.

They should be deported. It’s part of our rules. They’ll have to go to jail first. How is agreeing with the law offensive?

No. We have to be careful about calling people savages. There’s a bit of a history there of Americans doing that and demeaning people. No one is saying the judge is doing that. We just need to be cautious.

Yes, there are a lot of racists out there.

Nope. It has nothing to do with their status here or their country of origin. It would be the criminal activities. Jesus. Really? You’re trying to find racism in saying someone committing a criminal act should be punished? No. That demeans real claims of racist behavior. STAWP.

Hi, Troll! I love how you support criminal behavior! Projecting much?

Right. I feel like we’re bordering on racism here by calling them savages, although I get the Lord of the Flies thing means it’s not intended that way. Also, John, can we talk about your governing of the Congress? heh heh It’s not going well.

Naw. I don’t agree. I know plenty of Chinese students in the US. They are not violent in the least and are just regular people. This is something particular to this group of people. Knowing mob behavior is what it is, I would say there are two or three bad eggs and the rest are weak and easily influenced. Let’s not…

Oh sure! I agree. I just had this horrible vision of them going on to college here.

Good.

I’m starting to wonder if she’s got an inappropriate relationship with the advocate, and the advocate’s prejudiced in favor of dear old Dad. The snippet of his report, describing the kids sitting together and basically, being close siblings, was really inappropriate.

I don’t care how much loneliness they suffer. They are monsters for doing that. They need to be sent home, never to return to the States.

Have you seen the snippets, though? The advocate is a weirdo who claims that, because the kids all sit together and act like siblings, they are “like the Manson family.” That’s where the judge got that gross Manson crap. From the advocate.

Almost no one is defending the mother. They are upset with the judge. We don’t enough to defend the mother. We do know that the father was petty and shitty enough to leave the country with his kids in juvie, when he could have stopped that. We know the oldest kid claims to have seen the father hit the mother. That’s…

I have to agree that it sounds like the judge has some kind of personal relationship with the father, whether it’s sexual or not. She should recuse herself. Unfortunately, the advocate also sounds like an idiot, because it sounds like the advocate allowed personality conflicts with the teenager shadow recommendations…

Bluntly, it really does sound like “What the fuck?” To be fair, when I said, in front of my child, “Um, that sounds like a not nice word,” she just shrugged it off as minion speak.

This witch describes my feelings exactly. I’m the witch.

This thread almost, almost, makes it all worthwhile. I mean, it doesn’t, in the end, as all I can think about is the giant ditch nannies past their prime are tossed into, but almost.