On paper. In real life the Alfa is faster, smoother torque delivery, better transmission and gear ratios, also higher top speed by a sizable margin. The Alfa Busso V6s typically put out the rated HP at the WHEELS, the Saab is crank HP. I have driven both, and will bet on a stock 164-S/QV in a drag race against a…

yeah, people would always ask me “oh, you drive an Alfa Romeo, hahaha, hows the reliability” and I would have to answer honestly and tell them “pretty good.” And it was. Mine never left me stranded. rear-subframe rust is what ultimately did it in.

have you HEARD a Busso v6?

this is FAR faster than the Saab.

Actually the 164 is NOT a fragile car, it somewhat over-built as a mater of fact. the electrics are a nightmare if they start to get fritzy, but mechanically they are quite sturdy and well sorted. My 1992 164-S had somewhat over 400K miles on it when we parted ways. the big one is the timing belt. change the timing…

actually the 164 is NOT a fragile car, it somewhat over-built as a mater of fact. the electrics are a nightmare if they start to get fritzy, but mechanically they are quite sturdy and well sorted. My 1992 164-S had somewhat over 400K miles on it when we parted ways.

My ‘92 164 had slightly over 400K miles on it when we parted ways. The mechanical bits of the 164 are actually quite robust, change the timing belt regularly, don’t let the water pump fail, replace the lower A-arm bushings on a far-too-frequent basis and unless the electrics blow up the late generation Busso V-6s are…

I never wanted a 911. I even drove an older one and was like “meh, I guess that’s cool, I can understand why people like these, just not for me” and then I saw what Singer was doing to them, and I realized how wrong I had been and desperately need one now.

well holy crap! welcome the Univision-(Former Gawker)-verse!

If I remember correctly Buell was the *ONLY* profitable division of HD at the time of it’s dissolution. Fucking Harley killed the best thing they had going. low sales volume or not, it was a successful brand.

I am still fucking bitter.

Still bitter about Buell.

I had a 1992 Alfa Romeo 164-S, I rank it in the top four most reliable cars I’ve ever owned, beaten by the ‘11 Hyundai Elantra Touring, ‘00 Toyota Corolla and the ‘97 Buick leSabre. Cars I’ve owned that were less reliable than it included an ‘84 Volvo 240, a ‘98 Volvo V70 AWD, a ‘89 Mazda Protege LX, an ‘89 Audi 100…

I would buy one, but I’m buying a house, and I can’t get a 2wd one in my region (North East) the dealers are only getting AWD ones.

if it were AWD i’d be tempted to buy it...

cool car, looks fun, too expensive by twice.

don’t fail to watch the 4K PC intro compo. the Last few are just plain unbelievable. I didn’t believe them, then I downloaded Absolute Territory and ran it ...and... and I still don’t believe it, I just don’t think that’s possible...

very pretty, very tempting, very expensive... I give it NP, but only just.

the myth of the growth economy is showing cracks. The Rich are already preparing for the collapse by trying to fuck the poor into submission before they organize. /this rant could be much longer but I’m tired of yelling.

it is, in fact, a highly functional pair.