Oh perhaps but it's not so far removed from things we have read from others going back forever. Even Aristitke called any audience member stupid should they prefer the poor construction he perceived in Medea to the purity of firm in Sophocles' tragedies. I'll grant you the sheer accessibility of the Net has greatly…

Ok that's a fair point. But I thought your point was it offered a nuanced view of French aristocracy. I LOVE the play, but nuanced it is not. Nor does Weiss wAnt it to be.

I only object to how you present your opinion as fact—and anyone who disagrees is just under Starz' sorcery and not the sophisticate you are.

Regardless of your lengthy quote which has little to do with anything, how does Moore's "glacial" pacing serve the cliched teenaged male audience you say he is desperate to court?

You should be. It negates any point you want to make. Because really the same people are reading these threads episode by episode—you are not gonna find anyone reading your repeated comment for episode six who didn't see it for episode three as well. You'd waste your time better posting it in different forums instead.

I may be adding too many details mentally that aren't in the actual show, but due to Jamie's personality I mostly die that with the new focus on being able to kill Jack he has managed to, to some degree, get over what happened to him. Because I don't think he really has gotten over it (but maybe we are meant to think…

There's a lot of interesting writing about the lower class (or completely poor) boys going into the war years who would profit, often with their parents knowledge and need for the money—from trading their services for money or gifts, or even a proper bed for the night, and how increased laws and fears against…

And that detail would be pretty common even in fairly established brothels (still is in some countries…)

Yes, back in the day *nobody* ever debated something without taking offense. Thank God you are here to save the modern generations.

She has repeatedly said that anyone who likes Moore's work has somehow been "tricked" by him or they are simply wanting to like the work so much that they're blind to what's actually on screen.

Right—and Weiss himself has said about Marat/Sade (a play I know extremely well) that he admits he didn't do all that much historical research as it was at least as much a commentary about his opinions of class and revolution and the importance of artists in post war Germany, among other issues like communism, as it…

Right. It's hardly constructive to say that anyone who disagrees with you obviously didn't read your long, continuously the same, rant, isn't a true fan of the novels or was *tricked* by Moore (because you know, if someone likes something that you don't deem good it means they must be tricked) is not going to get…

The *exact* same rant—exactly. Maybe people no longer are reading the rants because a quick glance shows it's just a repeat of a previous rant (Moore wanting the novels' audience but then tossing aside the story itself—wha?—how it's obsessed with tensions around homosexuality—cuz you know teen males dig that in their…

I've read your complaints that Moore "jettisons Gabaldon's story" in the threads for many episodes of Outlander already, but even you, in your hatred for the adaptation itself and Moore's work on it, must realize you lose all credibility as soon as you say that. Yes, it's very much an interpretation (I haven't read…

Riiight, because only an adolescent male audience would have any interest in seeing if Claire actually manages to make a "fake smallpox" concoction—and really only because they want to see if Jamie vomits all over Claire's pretty outfit. *confused*

Yeah. Is it a fact that teenaged boys are fascinated in seeing just how a character might test out—and the method to testing out—if faked smallpox like symptoms could be made? Whereas the sophisticated, mature (and by implication I presume female) viewer would find such a scene "glacial" and pointless? Cuz I'm…

No kidding. Implying a spoiler from previous knowledge but still acting like it's not a spoiler is kinda a jerk move…

She hasn't been shown to get even remotely intoxicated—I don't think they've even shown her having more than one small glass of wine or, yes, whiskey in a sitting. Obviously we now know not to drink when pregnant, but I know women at least as late as the 1970s who were told that moderate drinking was more than fine. …

Well both actors in their youth had some notably well received gay roles in the theatre even if granted that was another time.

Yeah Robert and Sol have always been an issue for me (granted it doesn't help that Sheen reportedly refused to be on set last year when there was that giant rideable cock at the party). Whereas Grace and Frankie are show to still be interested in sex, the men come off as best friends or even brothers (not helped by…