I admit, I enjoyed Kimmy (though I personally thought the final couple of episodes were a big let down) but I did watch it over 2 or so days and reading this review… I realize I have pretty much forgotten the details of anything that happened (until reading a comment on here I forgot all about Dong).

I loved this piece except for the whole tirade about people disliking Sex and the City 2 because "There’s never enough exposing what’s important to gays and women" or something—so NO gay guy or woman had any feeling for it except full on love. I can't speak for women, but as a gay guy… no.

Good and fair points. I guess it's just that for a show that, for all the faults I find with it, is pretty good at giving even minor characters nuance, her quick descent into cartoonish villainy felt ridiculous and un-earned to me. Of course it's a show that only has four hours a season to tell it's story, so….

I always feel dirty for watching Little Children's sex scenes with him knowing their depressing context in the film.

*waves* I mean when he was on the show he had already done a lot of major screen work, albeit indie/arty stuff (the horror and action crappy franchises were about to come)—certainly more than Lisa Bonet has done lately, though of course anyone over the age of 30 would probably immediately recognize her…

Ha!

How wasn't she being out of line? She got some spit up on her and screamed that she needed help—when he was holding the baby, and was the one whose sister was missing, etc, etc… I mean I know it's not true on this show, but there are instances where—even if you have some huge baby spit up phobia—you just deal with…

I didn't really think we WERE meant to feel any real sympathy for her this episode…. *confused*

From the preview for next week it sounds like it was a last ditch attempt.

The interview with Lacy about his character on HBO's site, http://www.hbo.com/girls/ep… seems pretty spot on.

I think he does come across as judgemental in that kinda hypocritical nice guy way—but everyone on this show is judgemental. Obviously, after months of Hannah acting the way she has around him, it's hard to at least not be kinda sympathetic towards him.

No kidding, he hasn't been particularly shy in the past…

Also: "I was kind of blown away by Lisa Bonet’s performance. Girls is so
modest, small, and low-key that prominent, widely recognized
performers—Donald Glover, Patrick Wilson, Amy Schumer—can seem not quite
right in their roles, like their star power throws the show
off-balance. Bonet’s Tandis (?) Moncrieff fits right…

From the review:"Its half-hour format makes it a comedy almost by default, and it has a consistency, if not a frequency of jokes"

All their issues coulda just been solved apparently if they had remembered they had kids 10 or so episodes back.

Yeah,what a mess. Here I was complaining that the kids are NEVER really an issue or even mentioned (sure, let's spend all night getting sand—they'll sleep… somewhere) but then to have half the finale about them? The way Anna so quickly (basically in one episode) became thi horrible caricature villain was way too…

I *coff* downloaded this episode and it ran a full 25 mins without commercials. Does the show usually run that long? Either way, they prob wanted to get more commercials in.

I think the reviewer simply doesn't know—or temporarily forgot?—what the Hell alas means. I'm just catching up now but that drove me crazy… (Though it almost makes me want to use "alas" inappropriately in conversation now…)

Exactly. And it's a show that seems to pride itself in reality and even the mundane. Sure, I would probably call it contrived, but they could add a throwaway line or two (maybe, if some of the other sand people were charter school members and I have no idea if they were, one parents agreed to have a bunch of the…

While I don't disagree with that—is there much evidence Hannah likes Fran at all? Why is "well her friends keep telling her how nice he is" a valid excuse (I mean I get why it would be an effective psychological way of validating it, but if we're arguing who's in the wrong here…)