Sean got straight up fired.

So you guys fired Sean to hire more New York based car guys? How many more of you does it take to jerk off Tesla 24/7?

*Results not typical.

I get your point. I guess I just mean to say that’s its not an intentional cheat, just a difference in philosophy whether they want to chase that last mpg on the sticker of if they’re willing to leave some on the table in exchange for superior driveability.

What I’m talking about isn’t so much cheating as it is the sensitivity to being babied through a fuel economy test versus driving like a regular person. You can’t control how a person is going to drive the car but you can tune transmission shift maps and fuel maps to favor the test at the expense of decent real word…

Historically there have been good reasons for that. I don’t expect anything to change now with regards to pricing or quality gap.

Yeah in a test environment they match but when a real human drives them “normally” they drop off a good bit. Getting the sticker number in some brands is a miserable experience in quasi hypermiling. The recent Hondas I’ve driven do a pretty good job of more or less hitting the numbers when driven “normally”.

Fucking told you so.

I’ll believe it when I see it. Seems like most automakers are keen to tune engines and transmissions to work great for the EPA cycle only to underperform in the real world. The last new Honda I had (‘14 Accord Sport) actually met it’s Combined Maroney rating. Seems like maybe Mazda and occasionally Toyota also match…

It was a joke bud. Stereotypes are fun like that.

I’d argue Ohio is worse.

It was a joke bud. Stereotypes are fun like that.

I’m just impressed that Texas is progressive enough to include a hashtag AND a QR code on the same label.

Goldilocks spec right here.

For a part like a seat latch the Automaker is likely setting the spec. An airbag probably fall into the “black box” category where the supplier is given performance specs and the two agree and a method to achieve that.

Still gonna have a vehicle with 6" of suspension travel and shitty shocks that weighs 1000lbs too much.

Of all the other bikes on the grid which one would you be most interested in taking some demo laps on?

Having a handle on your face is as good as a ticket to throat punch city haha.

Problem is that somebody seeing red might make it into a man v cage fight instead of a man v cager fight, grille first.

Because everybody driving the same car sucks?