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- A few weeks back, you did an interview

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where you talked about the viewership

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between "Rebel Moon"

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and "Barbie," right?
- Sure.

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- And numbers aside, I'm
just curious, they sort

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of made it seem like,

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do you still think the cultural importance

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of the theatrical release has decreased

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because of some movies like "Rebel Moon"

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or is theatrical still the gold standard?

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- I was just going by the numbers

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that I was given by Netflix.

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People are like, "Oh, well,
like, you know, Snyder's crazy."

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I was like, "Well, I just literally,

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"I'm just doing a
mathematical thing with this,

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"not anything else."
- Yeah.

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- If now we're close

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to 100 million views, you know,

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a 100 million views times
two is 200 million views.

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So I don't need

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to do the math,

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someone else can do that.
- Yeah.

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- So people are like,
"Snyder's delusional."

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I'm like, "I'm just, I don't
know what to tell you,"

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but I would say, I think my
point was more about the fact

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that one, Netflix has

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a very robust pipeline, obviously, right,

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'cause you look at something like "Barbie"

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that has this incredibly
sort of zeitgeist-y

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and deep cut into culture,

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but the overall number is,

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you could say less theatrical.

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Right now who knows what it's done,

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now HBO Max, all that aside.

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But the cultural significance
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- of "Barbie" was happening

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when it was in the theaters, I would say.

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That's when we all
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- took a bite of the "Barbie" apple.

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And so that was my only
point, is that I think

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that there is in the theatrical zeitgeist,

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there's still some sort of.

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Even though maybe more people
have eyes on something,

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the actual sort of cultural
significance is sort

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of dictated still by the theater.

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(screen whooshes)

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- Is you and I fighting together?

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- You must know

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(dramatic music)

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you cannot win.

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