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- I think the biggest,
the, the biggest challenge

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for us in this one, after
having read the book.

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So I read the book and I really
fell in love with the story,

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but I knew that the big
challenge was gonna be

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because we're telling the
origin story of a villain

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that everybody knows was
primarily was to sort

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of reset everybody

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and get everybody behind
this young man who is not

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yet fully formed, who is not
philosophically formed, right?

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So to get the audience
behind him, rooting for him,

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empathizing him with him so
that he can be the protagonist

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of the story, but maintaining the sort of,

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you know, inherent sense of
darkness that's in him, the sort

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of need for ambition and
the greed and all of that.

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Keeping those elements alive
so that when he does kind

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of descend into darkness, it becomes

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truthful and believable.

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I'm a huge fan of all
those kinds of stories.

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I mean, you look at like Macbeth

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or you look at Breaking Bad,
or you look at, you know, even,

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you know, the Joker Darth Vader.

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As soon as you get into the, the sort

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of reasons why people go,
you know, to the dark side

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or you know, philosophically
dark like this kind

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of Hobbesian worldview.

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I think it's just a
fascinating character journey

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with Donald when we were
doing the original movies.

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And it, this is always
fascinating with actors, you know,

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he's playing the villain,
but when I was with Donald

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and when he and I spoke,

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we never spoke about him
being the villain, right?

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Like he and you know, was the sort

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of the hero of his own movie.

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And he took on this kind of
worldview, which is like,

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if you really believe this, you feel

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like what you're doing is right.

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And I think that's always the key.

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So that here we watch his worldview change

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through heartbreak,
through disappointment,

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through grooming, you know, all
the various sort of aspects,

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but it becomes a true belief for somebody.

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- Mr. Snow, let me ask you one final time.

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What are the Hunger Games for?