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- Let's get into this season.

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- Let's do it.

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There's a lot to talk about.
- There is a lot unpack here.

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- This is a lot.

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And it feels particularly, I
mean, it's always contentious

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but, like, I feel like

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it's particularly contentious this season.

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We have a lot of back and forth

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involving a lot of different players.

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- Yep.

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- And I feel like you two are kind of

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like the middlemen in a lot of situations.

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You're kind of hearing
everybody and you're-

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you always do such a great job,

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especially you Dolores, obviously for

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in past seasons, of hearing and
holding space for everybody.

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How do you both navigate this?

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Especially you, Rachel,
this is your first season.

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- You know, I think it's kind
of like knowing your place.

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- [Audra] Right.

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- You know, this drama
with Melissa and Teresa

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has existed way before I have
ever been in this picture.

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- [Audra] Right.

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- So, also just knowing that, like,

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I can have an opinion on things

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but I don't need to
insert myself in things

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that don't have to do with me.

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- [Audra] Right.

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- Especially family drama.

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- I've always treated this like

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my friends are like my family

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and I come from, I'm one of five,

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and I don't like to try to, like she says,

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insert myself into places
where you don't belong.

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- Right.

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- You can have your opinion,

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you could support your friend,

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but you don't need to support
the beef that's going on.

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- Now, we're coming up on like
midway through the season.

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There's a lot of milestones
we've yet to hit.

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We haven't seen the cast trip yet.

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We haven't seen Teresa's wedding yet.

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What are you looking most forward

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to for audiences to see coming up?

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- Both, equally. Both.

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- [Audra] Yeah.

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- Yeah. So the, the cast
trip is a nice prelude

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to the wedding.
- [Audra] Yeah.

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- And the wedding is iconic in itself.

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I mean, it's Theresa
Giudice getting married

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after all these years and
everything that she's been through

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and watching the girls grow,

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and it's like the end
to a chapter in her life

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but the beginning of the
best life, her best life.

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- You've teased before
that it's emotional,

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we're gonna see a lot of things

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come to the surface on that.

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- The finale is beyond emotional.

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The finale the next day was in my house.

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Did you feel sick the next day?

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I felt nauseous.

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- I was so- I had
nothing left in the tank.

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- And her and I weren't in
the middle of the fights,

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but it just drained,
it drained your energy.

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- We literally-

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there was a heaviness in
my house the next day.

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- Okay.
- That was wild.

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- Whew. All right.

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So, obviously Rachel,
going to you, you know

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this is your first season
going in, you know.

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What expectations did you
have and did they get met,

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I mean, or surpassed?

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- You know, I kind of went
into it with no expectations.

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- [Audra] Yeah.

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- Like I'm just gonna take it day by day.

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Let's see what happens.

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I really wanted to keep an open mind

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and get to know everybody
for who they showed me

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they were, not what I
had watched on the show.

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- [Audra] Right.

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- What I had read, what I had heard.

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- [Audra] Right.

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- I really wanted to give everybody equal

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opportunity to, like,
get to know each other.

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But no, no really expectations, other

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than the fact that, like, it's
just a whirlwind of drama.

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Like, whirlwind. That
expectation was definitely met.

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- Yeah. What's been
the best and worst part

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of watching all of this season back?

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And this is a question for both of you.

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- I hate watching it.
- [Audra] Yeah.

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- I think it's a great show to watch,

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- [Audra] Yeah.

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- If I wasn't on it.
- [Audra] Yeah.

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- But to relive the moments.
- [Audra] Yeah.

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- And it was hard for me,
'cause I was very vulnerable

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this season, showing affection and things

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that I don't typically, as Rachel knows.

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I'm not that girl. You know,
I'm very thick-skinned.

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I'm very tough exterior, and here I am

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with my new relationship
and it's different for me.

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So, that was hard for people to really see

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the raw part of me.
- [Audra] Yeah.

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- You know what the hard thing is too?

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It's like, you know,

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outside of this group of friends, right?

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If you have an issue with somebody,

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you know, you can talk about them

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behind their backs, and
you know, with your husband

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or another friend and like,

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you never hear
- [Audra] Yes.

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- these private conversations.
And now fast forward,

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and now you're hearing what
these people are saying

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about you.
- [Audra] Yes.

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- It's like, "Oh, that's how she feels.

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Okay. Let me write that down."

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- Yes. Dolores, I have to say,
obviously everyone is talking

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about your Watch What
Happens Live appearance

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because you are so candid,
as you usually are and as you

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as you have been for years.

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But you were so candid about,
you know, using Mounjaro,

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and your appearance, and
I just feel like you kind

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of made Housewives history.

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- Did I?

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- [Audra] I think you did. I really do.

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I think you did.

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- My boss has told me not to read anything

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or talk to anybody about and stay off

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of social media 'cause
there was a lot being said.

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- Yes.

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- So, tell me what's going on.

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- I'll tell you what's being said.

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Honestly, it's a really good mix.

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There's been of course backlash,
'cause everyone's gonna

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have a negative opinion about something.

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You could do the nicest thing in the world

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and someone would have a
negative opinion about it.

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- Right.

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- But, you know what, a lot of
people have said, "that's so

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refreshing to see that level
of candor in this day and age,"

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because you know what people
are doing and you know that,

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you know, housewives have
this immense pressure to

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look a certain way.

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- Right.

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- And it's hard to hear,
you know, folks who you see

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and trust and love seeing
on screen, you know

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all the time go, "Oh yeah,
I just look like this,"

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or, "Oh, yeah, anyone can do this."

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- I work out too.

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- [Audra] Yeah.

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- And you know what?

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I don't eat a lot of junk food,

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but people can have
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I'm sorry, I'm 52 years old.

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I have other kind of health issues.

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I have thyroid issues,
inflammation, she knows.

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- [Audra] Right.

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You know, and, and I'm
going through menopause.

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Like, listen, I'm not
gonna sit in front of women

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that are looking at me and saying,

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"oh, she just worked out," but no.

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- Just melted off her body.

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- I'm telling the truth.

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- That's one of the things
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about Dolores, and I think
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is that she's very
authentic and forthcoming

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about the things that she does
and if they're gonna hate her

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for being authentic, like,
that's what we signed up for, so.

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- [Audra] Yeah.

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- And I did, I went to a very good doctor,

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a double board certified endocrinologist,

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where I am being treated.
So, I'm honest. Yeah.

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- [Audra] Yeah.
- That's what I'm doing.

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- Yeah. I mean I just
appreciate that so much.

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I mean, my mom is a huge
Housewives fan, you know,

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obviously she says all
the time, "It's so, like,

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I almost feel gaslit by
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know are my age, you know,

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just saying they work out and eat well

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because so do I, and I
don't look like that."

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- Right, it's not. Yeah.

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- I think you're making people feel better

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about the measures that women just take.

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Don't blame the individual.

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- People should not be ashamed of that.

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And I literally got phone
calls and people whispering

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on the phone, "Where can
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I'm like, "First of
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You don't have to whisper.
And there's no shame in this."

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- [Audra] Right.

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- It is your decision. Do it right.

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Go to the right place

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and maybe you're a candidate
and maybe you're not.

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It's not for everyone.

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- I always say, "Don't
blame the individual.

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Blame the industry."

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- [Dolores] Yeah.

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- The beauty industry and
expectations are impossible

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and we're all trying to meet
them in some way or another.

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Last question for you.

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Do you guys know what you're
wearing for the reunion yet?

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That's a more fun question.

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- I'll let you know at the end of the day

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because I have a dress
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- [Rachel] When does it come,

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when does it get delivered?
- Oo, Okay.

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- Sometime today.
- Today?

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This one got her dress in five minutes.

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- Not purposely. Yes. I
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pop into a dress store and it was

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the first dress I tried on.

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- And perfect.

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She's very organized.

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Rachel Fuda is the most organized person.

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- And I'm lucky. I'm lucky.

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- We can see from, from watching you.

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It's admirable.

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