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- Hey guys, I'm Kevin from Gizmodo

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and I'm sitting here
with Andrew Callaghan.

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He is the mastermind behind
the Viral YouTube channel

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Channel 5 as well as the
upcoming documentary on HBO Max

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called This Place Rules.

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So you cover a lot of pretty intense

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political and social stuff.

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- Yeah, it's definitely
a more political movie

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than most stuff that
I've made on Channel 5.

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- Yeah, for sure, so I wanna ask you,

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were you seeking out those stories?

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You covered November,
2020 to January, 2021.

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Were you already kind of
seeking out those stories

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or were you like, I'm
making a documentary,

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let's go with these?

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- The documentary was
always supposed to be

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about the 2020 election and
the reason that Absolutely,

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which is Tim and Eric's
production company agreed

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to let me make the movie
was because of my coverage

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of the Minneapolis protests on the left

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and then the coronavirus
lockdown protests on the right.

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So they kind of gave me this opportunity

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and then A24 kind of financed it.

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Ultimately HBO bought it.

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But no, it wasn't really like I was trying

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to make myself more political

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but it was just an election movie.

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So naturally it was pretty political.

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- What's going through your head

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as you're getting closer
to kind of January 6th?

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Are you thinking like, oh,
shits about to go down?

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Like what's happening?

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- Yeah, I was definitely curious

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about what was gonna happen.

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Especially because at that
time, the echo chambers

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in terms of media consumption
had gotten so small, you know?

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And it was like people were
just so politically charged

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at that time.

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I'm surprised that it
didn't happen previously.

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You'll see in the movie,
you've seen it before,

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there was like three
false start January sixes

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where everyone got to DC but
there wasn't enough like anger

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and like people just weren't prepared

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to actually go into the Capitol.

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And it's funny because
after the Capitol Riot,

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I remember thinking, damn
this is gonna happen again.

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But it was sort of like the one and only.

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I think they flew a little
bit too close to the sun,

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especially once the feds came down

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and started handing out sentences.

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I think that they kind
of freak most of them out

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- Probably. Probably for the better.

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- Yeah.
- [Kevin] Yeah.

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When and where does This
Place Rules premier?

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- This Place Rules premieres
on HBO Max on December 30th.

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I think it premiers actually
on HBO proper on January 6th.

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I'm doing like a premier in Boston.

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- [Kevin] Beautiful timing right?

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- [Andrew] It's gonna be
in the news. It's perfect.

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- [Kevin] Yeah. Cool. Awesome.

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