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- Who is this for?

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- Who's the peanut butter
and pickle for, Claire?

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- Me! (giggles)

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- Hello and welcome to another episode

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of Hack or Wack: Snack Edition.

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Today, it's peanut butter jelly time.

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- It's not peanut butter jelly time.

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It's peanut butter kimchi time

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or peanut butter pickle time
or peanut butter lettuce time.

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- What is this witchcraft you
are talking about, Claire?

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- So the peanut butter and pickle sandwich

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is actually an old Depression Era staple.

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It's actually the first
article I ever got paid for

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was about peanut butter
and pickle sandwiches,

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so it's very special to me.

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- [Joel] So, Claire, why are
we using plain white bread?

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- White bread is so neutral

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that it's gonna let us really
appreciate the other flavors

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and textures of the stranger ingredients.

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- Yes, this is really gonna be a textural

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and flavor wonderland.

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- Do you put peanut butter
on both sides of your bread?

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- I don't normally.

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Do you? Should we?

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- [Claire] Yeah, because that
keeps it from getting soggy.

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- I wanna start with the pickle

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'cause that's the Claire Lower signature.

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- I have a homemade pickle
that Alex Newton made.

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- [Joel] So if you don't have

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fancy homemade ones like Claire-

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- Store-bought is fine.

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If you don't like it,
I'm gonna be heartbroken.

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- [Joel] Wait, let me get a nice shot

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of this peanut butter and pickle sandwich.

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- All right.

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Right?!

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- It's very surprisingly good!

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- [Claire] I know!

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- I love the texture.

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I love the crunchy pickle in with it.

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- And cucumber acid and
peanut are all flavors

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that you find in Thai food.

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- So when you have
peanut butter and jelly,

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obviously the jelly is tangy,

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so the pickle kind of gives you that

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with a little extra crunch.

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- What do you think, snack or wack?

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- I gotta say, it's a snack.

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I'm so surprised. It's good!

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- This is why I get paid the medium bucks.

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- So, the lettuce one
I'm interested to try

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because I see how texturally
one would say that it works

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'cause it's just crunchy

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on soft white bread
with soft peanut butter.

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But so my concern is
that lettuce doesn't have

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too much of a flavor.

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- I shared those concerns.

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- 'Kay, peanut butter and lettuce.

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Yeah, just the lettuce doesn't do enough

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and it's like, if you need a
crunch with the peanut butter,

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get crunchy peanut butter or
a pickle or toast the bread.

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- We set the bar so high with the pickles.

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- It's not bad, it's just not anything.

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- Yeah, I bet this has
roots in the Depression.

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- Welcome to my Depression Era,

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thanks to this peanut
butter and lettuce sandwich.

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- Yeah, this is wack, I'm sorry.

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- Yeah, no, this is wack.

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This is hardly anything at all.

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- How dare you suggest this to us?

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- So peanut butter and kimchi,

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I think as we explored before,

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something tangy, something
crunchy with peanut butter

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seems to work

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- I think peanut butter
and kimchi will work

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because you've got textural contrast,

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you've got contrast of flavors.

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In America, we tend to
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as an inherently sweet ingredient,

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we use it in a lot of desserts,

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we combine it with chocolate,

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but it's a savory ingredient as well.

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- I definitely put too
much peanut butter on mine.

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I would do half as much peanut butter.

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But it definitely works with the kimchi

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for all the reasons we just said.

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The kimchi is nice and crunchy and cool,

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funky and fermented, a little spicy.

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- This is what I wanted from the lettuce,

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texture, but then also flavor.

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- Is that so much to ask for in our food,

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texture and flavor?

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- Am I crazy?

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- Okay, Claire, peanut butter and kimchi.

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Is it a snack or is it a wack?
- It's a snack.

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- I agree, It's a snack.

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And I have nothing else to say.

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This actually works perfectly.

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I can't believe we haven't done it before.

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- I kinda want to put pickles on it also.

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- I think you're pushing it, Claire.

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- Don't tell me what to do.

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