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<v ->How are you?</v>

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<v ->A little crazy, I'm seeing things.</v>

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<v ->Honey, me too.</v>

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I'm having the wildest mommy brain lately.

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<v ->I don't, I don't think it's mommy brain.</v>

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<v ->I want to start with a really specific point</v>

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which is, I love the line, well, okay, so Lucy,

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something goes wrong,

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she goes online, and then later Pierce Brosnan's doctor

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tells her there'll be no more Googling.

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Which I think is such a brilliant line.

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First of all, I'm curious,

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I mean, are you like a WebMD user?

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Is that your go-to when, no.

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<v ->I don't look at comments.</v>

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I will not WebMD.

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I will text my health care provider,

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best friends, which I'm lucky to have two of them.

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I, no, no comments, no WebMD.

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<v ->Yeah.</v>

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<v ->Oh, it's too scary.</v>

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It's such a rabbit hole.

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It's addictive.

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It's like the most, the grossest form of addiction.

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Diagnosing yourself off,

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<v ->Yeah, yeah.</v>

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<v ->its designed to make you think of it</v>

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like you're in Atlantic City, you know, gambling.

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It's awful.

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<v ->Are you the type of person that's like, something's wrong.</v>

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I'm going to figure out what's happening myself.

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<v ->Oh my God, are you kidding me?</v>

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I usually, by the time I get to my doctors,

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I'm usually diagnosed what's wrong with me.

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<v ->Yes.</v>

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<v ->I'm just going to them for a second opinion.</v>

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But I already know what's wrong.

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I am so WebMD person.

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My dad is a doctor, my sister's a doctor,

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my husband's dad was a doctor.

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I mean, I'm just, I think I'm an amateur doctor.

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And I am obsessed with WebMD.

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Absolutely, I Google everything.

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<v ->That's funny.</v>

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And I mean right with your family.

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It's like, you can just call or text them

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at anytime and be like, what's this mean?

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<v ->I always say to people, I always say</v>

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I don't think I'm ever going to die

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because I have an uncle for any ailment that may befall me.

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I just have an uncle I can call and say,

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okay my left eye's twitching.

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What does it mean?

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<v ->Yeah.</v>

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<v ->'Cause you're an eye doctor.</v>

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<v ->I'm very aware that WebMD is like</v>

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one of those infographics that always leads you to cancer,

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and I'm just not even,

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<v ->That's so true.</v>

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<v ->That's where I actually will trust the doctor,</v>

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but I will say what's been so cool about this,

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and now, even in prepping

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for the show that I have coming out,

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to dive so deep into this world of fertility,

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and then for my show to dive so deep

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into the world of cardiovascular surgery, heart health,

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you know, all of these issues,

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what I've been learning about the medical system is,

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at times very inspiring, and at other times very appalling.

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Which is kind of how I feel about being a human.

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<v ->Yeah, sure.</v>

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<v ->The world is awe-inspiring and full of magic</v>

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and full of good people and there's like

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a horror movie waiting everywhere.

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So, that was sort of our, our way into this.

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And, and I suppose that's why it's effectual,

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because the more specific, the more universal.

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And so, I don't try to figure out how I might be feeling,

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you know on the Google machine.

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But, I do really encourage research.

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<v ->But of course, the deeper reading</v>

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of that line kind of taps into some of the themes

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of this where it's like,

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okay of course he doesn't want her online

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because knowledge is power,

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he's trying to insert his control wherever he can.

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I'm curious if you could talk a little bit

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about that side of the film.

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It's one of the many things like mommy brain

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that gets thrown out a bunch,

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that we're learning how Lucy is getting the control

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just sapped out of her at all times.

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<v ->Yeah, you know, it's funny.</v>

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Okay. So I'm 34 weeks pregnant currently.

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<v ->Congrats.</v>

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<v ->Thank you.</v>

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And I have to say, mommy brain is kicking in,

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where I'm like, I really am slowing down,

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and my capacity is, thinning.

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As are parts of my body, and then others are widening.

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But for most of my pregnancy I was like,

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I'm a fucking genius.

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And you know, I was like mommy brain?

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I'm on my shit right now.

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I'm on top of the game, you know,

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it's like, I was like super sharp.

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I think for the first time,

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I truly for the first time in my life,

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I'm finally having limits around, you know,

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comedians want to please everybody,

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and artists are, want approval.

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Artists want approval, right?

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And there's this struggle of like capping that

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and being like, well what do you want to make?

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Type of thing.

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So, I think my mommy brain has been super sharp

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because I've been having to actually have a container around

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what I give to others, knowing what I believe

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is the right answer here,

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and just being like, bam, bam, bam, you know?

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Yeah. So I'm, I find like these concepts that we have

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around the, you know, weakness of the female body,

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the weakness that a pregnant person is enduring,

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to be false. But, not completely false.

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Just like thought of as wrong, and thought of as binary.

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It is really intense.

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Pregnant people should be supported from,

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the middle of the second trimester on.

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There should be, we have no mat leave, you know what I mean?

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It's sickening.

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And it's like, it's not that I have been so like tender,

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and sensitive, and have needed softness,

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but it's not a substitute.

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It doesn't exclude strength.

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<v ->The moment you point out about Pierce saying</v>

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no more Googling.

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I think about it in the same way.

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There's a moment between Corgan and Lucy,

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where she looks at me,

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and is explaining how she's feeling about something,

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and why I call Corgan an agent of the patriarchy

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is because her immediate response,

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to another professional woman is, well,

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what does your husband think?

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<v ->Mhm mhm.</v>

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<v ->And I was like, oof.</v>

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So the husband who's not pregnant,

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his opinion means more to this pregnant lady

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about this other pregnant lady's experience.

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But we've been cultured to say, well,

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what did the doctor say?

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Well, you know, you're obviously very emotional.

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What does your husband say?

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And it's like, maybe I'm just tapped in.

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<v ->The mommy brain thing that keeps getting thrown out there,</v>

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like, it's just.

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<v ->It's like a dagger in my heart.</v>

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<v ->Yeah, they're weapons.</v>

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<v ->It makes me wanna gag every time I hear it.</v>

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<v ->I feel like so many of our very best thrillers,</v>

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horror movies, especially of the past decade or so,

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do you have this really strong, thematic undercurrent,

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these social themes that are at play here.

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And I'm curious, like why do you think that horror

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has become such an ideal vessel for cultural commentary?

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What makes horror the best way to tell these stories?

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<v ->Well Cameron, we live in horrifying times.</v>

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<v ->That's true.</v>

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<v ->We live in horrifying times, especially the last year.</v>

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It's been one, shit show.

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And, but also I think we, I think it's just human nature.

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We love, you get to really go there

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when you tell stories and you don't shy away

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from the horror of reality.

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You know, the horror of reality,

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when you don't shy away from that

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you have so much more leeway

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to build such bigger stories.

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I mean, like for instance, one of my favorite films

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in recent years was Midsommar.

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And I literally could not look away.

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I just thought

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(gasps)

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there's so many, so many, so many issues happening here.

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The whole of the women, it's fertility again, right?

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<v ->Yeah.</v>

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<v ->Women's fertility again, its the goddess,</v>

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the goddess theme, still the woman who births a nation

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or births you know,

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how far would she go to achieve

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that goal if that's what she wants to do?

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And, I don't know why,

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I actually to be honest don't know why it's such a thing,

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in our recent cultural moments, but, you know,

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I guess things go in cycles and it's maybe time for that,

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for us to really examine the reality of life.

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And sometimes things are kind of horrifying.

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<v ->Hey, this pregnancy shit is no joke, right?</v>

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<v ->Yeah.</v>

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<v ->I mean, it's really scary.</v>

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(unsettling music)

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<v ->Brilliant.</v>

