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<v ->She won't let them go.</v>

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<v ->I'll get those papers for you.</v>

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Scott Landon's books changed me.

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<v ->I'm sure I won't be the first or the last,</v>

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but I'm very curious

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if you were already a proficient yo-yoer

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prior to taking this role

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or did you have to go undergo some training

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(laughing) for the part?

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<v ->You are. You're the first one to ask.</v>

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<v ->Wow.</v>

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(interviewer chuckling)
<v ->Yeah, you're the first.</v>

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I was certainly

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a victim of the nineties yo-yo craze.

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<v Interviewer>(laughs) Yeah.</v>

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<v ->Definitely had a lot of yo-yos</v>

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at one point in my life.

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Probably when I was in like sixth grade.

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But they did hire

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this like, professional yo-yoer

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to teach me some other stuff.

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But, when we got to working together,

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he felt like the yo-yo

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that they were giving me for the show (laughs) was like--

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cause it really was a from-a-cereal-box kind of yo-yo--

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And he was just like,

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"There's not much you can do with this thing."

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Because he has these crazy yo-yos

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that you spin for minutes at a time.

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And the stuff he does with them are like,

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truly incredible.

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So aside from walk the dog and rock the cradle,

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which I still kind of had muscle memory

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from the yo-yo craze of the nineties,

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there wasn't much more to learn.

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<v ->That's, yeah.</v>

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I was kind of in the same boat as you.

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And it's very, very funny to hear

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that the yo-yos for this were not up to industry standards.

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(both chuckle)

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<v ->But his yo-yos are crazy.</v>
<v Interviewer>Yeah.</v>

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<v ->I mean, they're like really insane things. Yeah.</v>

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<v ->I want to really talk about Jim.</v>

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I think he's such a fascinating character

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and in the works of Stephen King,

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we kind of see this long line of

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lonely, hateful men who have a lot of anger about society

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and that certainly comes out

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in the episodes we've seen so far with Jim.

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I'm curious,

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what was it about this character

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that you were interested in exploring?

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<v ->You know, this whole, creating this character,</v>

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was entirely an exploration.

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And I think that process, that artistic process,

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was just unlike anything I had done before.

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The gym you see in our show

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is very different than the gym that's in the novel

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or even that was in the script, when I got the script.

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Pablo Larraín, the director, had this idea

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for Jim

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that he communicated to me

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and then-- and communicated to Stephen King.

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And that just became a conversation

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and collaboration between the three of us where

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Pablo was very much the jumping off point for Jim.

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Stephen was

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amazingly on board

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with us trying to do something new

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and interpret what he had written in a new way

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and writing new stuff as we were going along.

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For me to be a part of that

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and be able to lend my own opinion,

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that was just incredibly exciting.

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And it was actually, it was working in a way

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that I had never really done before.

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