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- So how does she escape?

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(crowd cheering)

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- Are you sure you wanna do this, Heather?

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(quick breathing)

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- (Heather) There was a game.

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- You know, in the show, some friends

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go behind some other friend's backs,

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not to give too much away.

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Are they really friends?

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If a friend goes behind your back,

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are they really your friend?

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What do you guys think?

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- Oh, this is the good question.

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Cause I know what you're referring to,

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and that's a tricky one.

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I feel like in general, probably not.

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- Yeah. I would, I would want to know why.

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If I could understand the reasoning,

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I'd have empathy, but I guess
I'd hold them at a distance,

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You know?

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- Yeah. I think it's so
it's so specific in the show

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and I'm interested to see how people react

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to that specific storyline.

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- So specific, that's the thing.

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- It's very specific.

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But yeah, I would say in
general, probably not.

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- How courageous are you guys?

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And what Panic challenge were you like,

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"No, this is where I would drop out.

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Like this is the one I wouldn't do."

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- Walk the plank, I would not do that.

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- Yeah. The first two are heavy hitters.

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They're pretty dangerous.

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I feel like towards the,

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I think I've said this, I feel
like episode five and til 10

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are very like, kind of like
mental challenges, and tricky.

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And I was like, oh, I
would totally do these.

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But the first two, like,
I'm not jumping off stuff.

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I'm not going up high.

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- Was there any stunt or
situation in the show,

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that you were like, "Fuck
no, I would never do that."

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And obviously,

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you know, you weren't necessarily
participating in them,

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but like ones that you're like,

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"Absolutely not, this is
where I would drop out."

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- Oh, for sure.

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I mean, we talked about
this earlier today.

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I would have dropped out
after the first challenge.

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I can't do...

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I'm scared of heights in general.

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Like being on a plane, roller coasters.

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So having to jump off of a cliff?

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Nah, you can miss me
with that. Nah.

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- Ray, what about you?

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- Jumping off a cliff? Fine.

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But the tightroping.

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No, that's...

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No, absolutely not.

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- Yeah, that one for me was like,

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you know, it's one thing if it's secure,

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it's another thing if it's
been there for a hundred years

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and like, no one's checked it.

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- Yeah. The no check was what took me out.

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You know what I mean?

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Like if someone had checked it, maybe.

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No, I'm just kidding.
No, no, no.

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- So also in the show, there is a tiger.

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And like in real life
right now in Houston,

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there's like a tiger just like out

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wandering around or whatever.

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- Oh, really?

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True story guys.
- What?

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- Or maybe they caught it by now,

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but it was definitely
happening a day or two ago.

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- Oh my goodness.

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- If you find out like there's
a tiger in your neighborhood,

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what are you doing?

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Like, are you going about your life?

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Are you staying home?

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What are you doing?

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- Well, me personally, I'm panicking

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because the way my apartment is set up,

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that Tiger's getting into my house.

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So I might have to go live with the homie,

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I might have to call Ray up.

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I'm panicking for sure.

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- We get mountain lions
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and I actually read a book about tigers,

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which is like, it's
this great book called,

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"The Man Eating Tigers of Kumaon."

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And it talks about how,

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you know, a tiger doesn't
really eat a person

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unless it's been wounded in the wild.

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So like if it was an unwounded tiger,

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I wouldn't be that worried about it.

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But if it was wounded,

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I would get out of there fast,

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'cause they're eating people for sure.

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- So I'm kind of wondering, you know,

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is there a point in Panic
that you would have quit?

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Like watching the show,

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looking at the challenges and being like,

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"This is the one that I couldn't do."

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Especially, I mean, you
kind of knew what they were,

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but like even seeing them happen.

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- Right, right.

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Well, I mean problematically
when I was that age

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and I mean, I think I wrote to this,

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I mean, because this was my whole journey.

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I mean, the question is like

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when I was that age

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or even older, the problem
with me was that no,

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I mean, like I wouldn't have cared, right?

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And you know, we did
some versions of this.

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Nobody would ever play me

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'cause I literally didn't give a shit.

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About my own life, about
whatever, you know what I mean?

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Now, like pretty much if it involved

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me like leaving my house

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and staying up late, I would be out.

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You know what I mean?
I'd be like,

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"Sorry, can I instead stay home

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and like do some research about

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this amazing Chinese pirate

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I read about the 19th century?"

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Like, great, I'm going to do that.

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So, you know, my sister
was a very big daredevil.

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I mean, some of these things are,

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not even daredevil, that
makes it sound positive.

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You know, I watched some
of these things unfold

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with her and her friends playing sometimes

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with catastrophic results
where I was a teen.

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Again, I think Panic is
really more about the journey

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that I took to really do
the harder thing, right?

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Which is find bravery

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and just no matter how hard things are,

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taking the little steps
towards your own life

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and believing that, that has
value, you know what I mean?

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- I think there's also an element too,

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of like you never know what's
happening in people's lives.

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Do you know what I mean?

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And having empathy for...

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- Yeah, well, I hope so.

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I think that's the big
thing that they found.

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I didn't adapt it, but in Before I Fall

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was about that as well.

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I think is,

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I mean,

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you know, while you

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can't save other people, you can't this,

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I think there's nothing bad

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that comes from just
remembering that, right?

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That everybody is living their own story.

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We pay a lot of attention
to the only story

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in which we're guaranteed to be a hero.

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Which means we don't really think a lot

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about, you know, how we might be behaving

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in other people's stories or whatever.

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And I do believe very strongly

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in empathy and that it
has tremendous power.

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- [Man] You gotta know
what to be afraid of.

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When to be afraid of it.

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You got another difference.

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- Let me out.

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- Somebody help me.

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♪ I ain't got no place to go ♪