oh I take no issue with your differing opinion. But trying to appoint yourself as some kind of voice for Indian Country? That I find ridiculous.

No one’s saying it’s maliciously racist. Just lazy as fuck. Which happens all too often. And deserves every ounce of criticism it gets.

But is this a ‘meaningful way’? The difference is that non-Natives treat Native culture as ‘lore,’ but that’s not what it is to Natives. I was told when I was young to never discuss skinwalkers with non-Natives and never at certain times. This (and other elements of Native cultures) is not wizardry or magic, so…

And I would add that the author’s personal experience had to have been heavily based on the fact that her father (and later her mother) was a pastor at that particular congregation. That’s a decided benefit that is barely discussed in the story.

I think the heart of my issue is that, while I too know plenty more “good” Christians than bad ones, even the nicest ones who will come visit you in the hospital and volunteer in soup kitchens and generally be a kind person still carry and spread incredibly harmful ideas that are based in the religion. Some of the…

I agree with DragonsDaughter that we hear about evangelical beliefs all the time, and that they are tremendously supported in our society. I think the disconnect comes from that privilege being shattered, when you move from your safe haven of believers to a world that does not believe what you believe. Then, perhaps,…

— So Evangelism was good for you, likely due to your white, upper middle class upbringing. But that’s not the case for all Evangelists, so was it actually good? You sound grounded and self aware, but that’s not a common trait from many Christians I’ve known, and that’s from CA to TX to NY.

Speaking as a queer person, even the liberal progressive evangelicals often pull that “hate the sin love the sinner” toxic bullshit.

The core of evangelism is running around and telling other people that your system of beliefs is correct and that theirs isn’t.

Being an exception to a rule doesn’t make the rule any less fucked up

Okaaaay, but why? Like, I’m glad that this author is a well-adjusted person with happy memories of her childhood and adolescence, but I don’t really see how that contributes to the conversation.

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white people are idiots.

Don't compare people to animals. Don't do that. Don't be that person.

I think a good approach to this debate might be to not imply that the feelings of native peoples are roughly analogous to those of animals.

Oh my god. The fuck is wrong with people?

Here to add to the discussion that our smallpox warfare left us whole empty cities and cleared agricultural land that we literally walked into and started using.

I hate it when white people start eating something and it gets more expensive: hummus, coconut juice, and now sriracha. It’s a phenomenon I call gentri-food-cation.

Not surprised he said that. As a Mexican professor of labor economics in a US college one of my students once said to me during class that Mexican immigrants looking for work were not the same as European immigrants because when Europeans got here there was nobody around. I was so confused and embarrased for him.