The timing is also suspicious since a Republican announced candidacy for the AG today. By no means am I saying that I don’t believe the women, but the timing of it all stinks like a fish and everything about the whole situation is just so upsetting.

I’m going to guess that you’ve not read the research that I have, then. There were several studies - using different methods, not just the survey questions mentioned by telepresence - to measure honesty in correlation with swearing.

Bummer!

Studies indicate that people who swear are more honest than those who don’t. Maybe that will make your mom change her tune? (Sorry for the pun.)

I’m not sure I’m seeing it as defense of her so much as recognition of the nuances that come with this level of family dysfunction. She is incredibly privileged - privileged enough to pay for counseling and educate herself on the world around her - but that doesn’t mean it isn’t sad that this is who her father is and…

Okay, but he was 21 in 1985. Was he even in Hollywood yet?

Kiefer and Corey were in The Lost Boys together in the 80's, but is he really seen as a family man? Is he A-list and that much of a power player? Isn’t his father a bigger deal than he is?

Ron Howard is not an A-list actor. He is an A-list director.

I’d buy Sutherland. Haim was in something with Kiefer in the 80's, according to IMDB, and I could see Donald hanging around “on and off set”.

Except there’s no indication that they ever worked together in the 80's, is there? Ron Howard seems like an even less likely choice than Tom Hanks, who is ridiculously unlikely.

Seriously? Not true. If it was, you wouldn’t take the chance by not voting, and you wouldn’t have been a Bernie supporter considering all of his highest paid staff were men and Hillary is the stronger of the two on women’s rights. Also, who’s Trish?!

Guess we know who to blame if we end up with President Trump and even fewer rights as women.

I’m thinking also not Elizabeth Warren for the same reason, although I think she’d be more effective in the Senate anyway.

She does by comparison.

Okay, but what does your reference to 21 grammys have to do with Kim and Kanye as a couple? And Kim having anything to do with secretly recording other people’s conversations?

Kanye is a legitimate talent even if I am not a fan, but I will never understand why Kim is famous, whether it’s for 10 years or 50 years.

PS love that gif!

You mean when he dumped her, went off on her publicly, her team admitted she wrote part of his song (which he confirmed before going off on her again), and... what? How does his trash-talking her make him look good? He has the right to say what he wants and clearly he felt the need to defend something, and I think all…

You may be right, but I don’t buy her approving him calling her a bitch in the song, and there is zero class in recording someone’s conversation in possible violation of the law.

PR Hiddleswift Tour is dumb but probably wouldn’t have happened if he wasn’t going off on her the second he dumped her. Which is his right to do, but again, doesn’t show all that much class. And if she wrote part of his song, even under a pseudonym, it still doesn’t say much for him to go on a public rant about that…