I'm just echoing teisco above me in saying Hola! for Chrome. works great for iPlayer

No, the "feel" of the two cars is very similar, just a little stiffer on my CTS, which I would imagine is similar to the ATS with the same suspension package. They're both very well planted cars, my CTS4 being the most stable car I think I've owned, and I have no issues with either of them in that category.

Yes CTS4 with 3.6 and Performance Pack. Previous car a '11 Mustang GT with Coyote V8. So I'm used to some grunt. My last turbo4 was in the early 90's in a Mercury Capri XR2.

The dealership gives me a 2.0T ATS when my CTS is being worked on, and I just can't stand it. It feels like an underpowered anemic thing to me. Granted, my CTS has higher numbers and I'm used to driving it every day. But I'd have a really hard time going to a car with that engine. I do a lot of highway driving and…

"Also impacted are approximately 2,000 employees at Toyota Motors Sales USA Inc. in Torrance, Calif. and "certain employees" at Toyota Motor North America in New York."

What are you, like 12? A 12 year old bigot, good job.

Exactly. Though they are moving many of those jobs to Georgetown an hour south of here (and that part is being missed in most of the news stories), we're getting pretty boned in Northern KY. With a housing market struggling to break even, this glut of mid level homes that will be coming for sale is going to kill any…

Wait, this is Jalopnik. Don't all of us in bad weather areas have a badass 4wd equipped with snow/offroad tires in addition to our commuter cars and weekend track cars?

you mean like this?

So, Derp, what do you personally own and drive that's so awesome? Or are you one of those 13 year olds posting crap on jalopnik?

You should probably go back to Jezebel, this is a site for car guys.

My 2011 GT is my DD and I take my 4 year old to preschool in it every day and sometimes have to also haul our 1 year old. It's been great, the kids love it. The trick is finding the right car seats. The Sunshine Kids Radian carseats do great at fitting down in the bucket seats.

FYI that news graphic is actually from a Cincinnati, Ohio news station

Yeah, uh, no it won't. apparently you're a fanboy and have never actually owned either.

red herring

Big difference between a 10 and an 11 CS. The 11 could do 495 hp with tuning, intake/exhaust, and internal tricks with no forced induction needed.

I've owned 4 mustangs including my current '11 GT. I love this design. As long as it has the power behind it, I'll be buying.

Yeah I'm a huge Mustang guy and even I voted for the ZL1. The '72's were giant fat turds.

I fit 2 guys from work in the back seats of my '11 GT regularly going out to lunch. Also, I haul my two kids a couple times a week in car seats in the back. Those seats are FAR from worthless to me, and one of the reasons I bought the car instead of a 2 seater.