Fucking unions, amirite? Always demanding their workers not retire in poverty. Don't they know their place? The big three could've sustained themselves. If they didn't stop giving a shit in the 80s and start producing shit that nobody in their right mind would pay money for. Unions existed long before the 1980s. A…

They knew what their lives were like without a union. The question for them was whether a union would improve their lives. Seeing as how the VW plant was well operated, the UAW probably didn't have much to offer them. That doesn't excuse some asshole yelling at them that he had spooky secret info that they would…

Are you seriously trying to get the upper hand by questioning whether large companies in America openly try and fuck over their workers in the year 2014? Between the throwing of employees to part time to pay less and try and avoid providing benefits and big lobbying groups fighting minimum wage increases, I don't know…

Fact: People who type "Fact:" usually go on to say things like "the moon landing was fake and Obama is a Kenyan Muslim whose REAL father was an American atheist communist."

This feels weird. An MP4-12C with a P1 front. On one hand it seems good economics, on the other hand it seems lazy. The answer is somewhere in between. I'm sure it'll go like a stabbed rat, regardless. Nice to see Macca build a presence and grow.

It's a one-sided thing because VW was fine with it. I don't give a shit if the UAW win or not, I want a fair process where a party that has nothing to do with the election doesn'tf interfere. Maybe they need a union there, maybe they don't. That's their issue to decide, not for some hacks to swoop in and tell the…

Seeing as how American companies still constantly try to fuck over their employees and openly campaign against safety regulations and minimum wages, we do still need unions in this country. It would be nice if we didn't need unions (I agree that the bureaucracy and fees would suck), but in America in the year 2014, we…

No, I'm just saying, how the hell do I know your story is real and not made up?

I don't see how a shitty company failing on their obligations because of incompetent leadership running the company into the ground is the fault of some guy assembling a car's suspension. If they worked for their pensions, why the fuck should their benefits be cut but not of the assholes who ran the company into the…

I'm fine with them not wanting to join. As long as they make their decision without politicians interfering with the election and threatening them, I honestly don't care. It's up to them, but you can't have some jackass come in and start spreading bullshit lies and then have the vote get swayed. Someone posted some…

It's dumb reasoning, but if that's their only reasoning, it's fine by me. If there's no people who voted no because they were scared shitless of being fired, then I think we're all good here.

Reading, can you do it? They were threatened that VW would fire them if unionization would occur. Despite VW pointing out that such statements were bullshit and a new CUV heading to production at the plant, politicians kept going with the stupid-ass threats that they had super secret info that VW was totally going to…

Nice manifesto there. One thing: I am not a college kid, and I do have a normal job. I'm not in a union, either. Also, pretty much everything you typed there is bullshit. It's as if it's an alternate reality. When the executives continuously pay themselves lavish bonuses and basically rob the company, they lose all…

As I've pointed out before, I don't give a shit if they unionize or not, I just don't want asshole politicians swaying the vote by yelling at them that they will be fired if they unionize even though VW was planning on adding production. That's not a clean election.

The anti-union lobbying came from people who had no reason to lobby against it and lobbied with outright false statements telling workers they would lose their jobs. That's not really a fair election. This shit is between the union and employer, and the employer was fine with it, so let the workers decide if it's…

I'm not a union worker. I just think that when the employer is fine with unionization, workers should make the decision based on the merits and not threats of them losing their jobs from politicians. My issue in this case was the electioneering done by a party (politicians) that had no business lobbying for either…

The boss of an international union making $150,000 isn't the same as a CEO making $15,000,000 with perks while his employees can't afford to go to the doctor. That's not the case with VW, but my issue here is the interference with the election by politicians, not losing or winning. I want workers to decide on their…

My issue isn't whether the union is a plus or minus, it's the fact that local politicians butted in and tried fervently to sway the election.

Well, see there's a differene there. For one, VW was in fact fine with unionization. The politicians against it were on the right of the political spectrum. That party also does use the term "big government" quite often in their campaigns. So what's the issue? A Tennessee chapter of the UAW probably isn't the same as…

Ironically unions are actually kind of a necessity right now since that's the last thing keeping us from being China with everyone working at slave wages. There's a reason the rates for union membership and middle class income have steadily declined together. Workers who have no rights are workers who will accept any…