“... if she has some significant hand in shortening the war.”

I bought one of these, but they can’t ship it to me until they find a UPS driver who is worthy enough to lift it onto their truck.

The Klingons irk me the most.

The other thing about STD is that they didn’t have to lie to us. Like, they could’ve just said: we’re doing a Trek series set in its own loosely-defined timeline; we’ll throw in some nods to stuff you like but we’re going to be clear it’s an alternate universe/timeline.

Eh, there’s also a point where it stops becoming star trek if its too far into the future

A) aesthetics isn’t really that important (and something Trek has been more than willing to change radically before: see TOS -> The Motion Picture -> The Wrath of Khan)

Makes me wonder about season 2 without his involvement.

I’ll say the same thing about Discovery that I said about JJ’s movies. They’re decent enough science fiction shows. But they are not Star Trek. They are no where near Star Trek. The Orville is ‘12 parsecs’ closer to Star Trek than Discovery is.

Same as in Star Trek. Voyager being able to land was a really big deal and the Galaxy saucer section was basically lost forever if it crashed. So suddenly the Abrams Enterprise turning into a submarine and the Discovery ships being able to fly around in atmospheres with no problem is BS.

The Klingons are massively problematic and it remains to be seen if they even attempt to address it.

The latter is annoying. The former I mind less because cool visuals.

I absolutely hate the Klingons, it’s so strange since it wasn’t necessary to change them like they did.

I can agree with this to a point. I actually enjoy Discovery quite a bit. But this absolutely should have been set post-TNG, or just it’s own, non-Trek universe altogether.

It’s a shame-this mess happens because, at the end of the day, Star Trek is just another property in Paramount’s portfolio. Star Wars and Marvel have big companies built around them. Devoted, in large part, to making and supporting those movies and other media- The past and future are managed by the same people. If…

I hate that Star Destroyers can operate in atmosphere (e.g. hovering over Jedha or Lothal) and that ships can jump to hyperspace from within a gravity well.

I’ll see your Midichlorians, and raise you a “Anakin? No, there was no father.”

I really enjoyed the big twist at the end where it turned out the writers had no idea what they were doing

You are not alone, I thought the same thing:

Wasn’t there an episode of the 90s Twilight Zone or Outer Limits that was pretty much this? Put a guy manning a doomsday device in isolation, make him doubt the aliens exist, get him to surrender without activating it... then demonstrate that the (psychic) aliens do, in fact, exist, and he just doomed humanity?